New York, NY (January 29, 2008) – KillaKat came to Loud.com seemingly out of no where. Joining late in the competition, he secured a win in the 10th Round of Bracket C and turned that into a first place spot in the finals. His style sounds like an odd mixture of De La Soul funk, Jay-Z swagger with a little of Slug’s “Ouch” thrown in. With such an eclectic blend, and with everyone on the board left to wonder who this guy was, I was definitely looking forward to interviewing him. We chopped it up for a good hour and I think we scraped away some of the mystery surrounding Loud.com’s most recent $25,000 winner. Read on as Kat’s talks about being homeless, anger management and how hip hop truly saved his life.
Loud.com: What’s poppin dude, it’s early morning over there, huh?
Yeah, it’s all good, though. Takin a trip to the studio, later. I’m in a rock band, too. They help me out with my stage shows and I do vocals for them, it’s dope. We’re recording a cover of “Cult of Personality,” I’m singin on it. Apparently I’m the only one in the group that can do it, so…
Loud.com: Yeah, that’s a good song. So how did you come across Loud.com?
I came across it surfin the web. It was more along the lines of MySpace and I stay deep into just surfin around, you know? I recognized David Banner as one of the producers and I started listening to the producers, like, these are fantastic beats and I gotta get on.
Loud.com: You’ve got a lot of pictures of you rockin stages on your profile, how long have you been performing?
I’m 26, and I been doin hip hop about 15 years… it was just like a playful thing, me and my dudes would get together and we sucked at first, but we saw some talent in each other and got better as the years went on. We noticed that a lot of people liked our music, but it was kind of ahead of its time.
So we decided to get out of the state to tour around, which went really well, cuz then we had requests coming back to bring us in again. Did a lot of different festivals. I decided to branch off myself for a little bit and it was poppin, man, everything was cool. We were opening up for Bone Thugs, Tech-9, real dope acts.
We actually opened up once for Insane Clown Posse. That was a real kind of solidifying moment for us, though, man. They got booed off the stage, the crowd was throwing rocks and about to riot and shit, rushin the stage… they were pissed. We got them calmed down, though, and were able to change the whole atmosphere. At that point, I knew we had something.
Loud.com: That’s crazy. Now, your profile says you’re from Chicago?
Yes, born and raised. Born on the west side, went over to the south side. I love my city.
Loud.com: What was growing up like for you? A lot of emcees seem to have come up in an environment where not all was well and good… what was your experience like?
Hip hop saved my life, really. I had anger management issues as a teenager, man. I was one of those bad kids that started fights for no reason, the kid you didn’t want your kid around. I would always be shuffling from school to school, I had a single parent, like, my mom had me when she was 15. There wasn’t that many things to do for someone like me to do back then. She had three different jobs; I was a latchkey kid and in my downtime was focused on bein a bad ass.
Around my first years in high school, I was doin the whole gang thing, and from that, I did a lot of other regrettable things. I’m a grown man now, and I ain’t glorifying those things, cuz honestly, I feel I’m still tryin to make up for it. If it wasn’t for music, I’d probably still be doin it. When you see your boy get shot in front of you and you can’t do anything about it, that messes with you. It messes with you hard. Either you end up like him or you change. You’ll never leave the ghetto when it’s in you, that much I know. But to get out, you gotta up your game, step your mental game up, or you’ll never go anywhere otherwise. That’s something I had to learn.
Loud.com: And unfortunately, I think that’s something that not a lot of people afford themselves the opportunity to do. But lets step away from that. Talk to me about your style a bit. It’s kind of an interesting mix… you got punchlines, but you got swagger, too; and, to me it seems, a bit of almost light-hearted irony… how much or how little was the music of your youth an influence on that?
It’s everything. I listened and still do listen to a lot of different shit. Popular and less popular dudes. From Rakim to Main Source. I listened to a lot of cats and took bits and pieces, plus life experience. When I get on the mic, it’s what I love to do and I’ma do it the way I do. I don’t care if anyone else likes it, if anything, I got one fan and I’ma play til he’s tired of it… and that one fan is me! So you know, I don’t really have a method, I read the track, if it calls for a punchline, if it’s got the swagger, I’ll do it. I rap with a smile cuz I enjoy it, and I think you can tell just by listening. I don’t foresee doing anything else.
Loud.com: That $25,000 should help… did you expect that at all?
I had no idea, man. What I do, the music, I just do it cuz it’s there to be done. I had no idea about winning, it was a complete shock, I’m still in shock. I’m tryin to cope with it right now. I just won, like, ain’t this like what I always wanted to do? I’m still putting the pieces together; it’s all comin in spurts.
Loud.com: Is rap your 9-5?
Nah, not officially. I work for the general public, so I always got material. I work in retail. If I got an angry track, it’s usually cuz I carry a notepad to my lunch break and people have pissed me off.
Loud.com: Now, some people have been grumbling on the site that at the time of this writing, you only have 131 friends and haven’t been a part of the site that long… what do you think made the judges pick you?
I’m only guessing, but I have a lot of traffic cuz I spend a lot of time on MySpace, so I have links up on my Loud page. There’s a lot of traffic over there, and I have thousands of friends on MySpace.
But lets be honest: just because you’re popular doesn’t mean you’re a dope emcee. Personally, I’m about the music, like, I play so many different instruments it’s not funny. And I stand behind my shit for no other reason than this is what I do. I’m really thinking it was probably a music choice. I make sure every track I put out is good. I’ll be quick to hit the delete button if it’s wack.
Loud.com: When we spoke initially to set this interview up, we got to talking a bit and you mentioned you were a gym rat. How important is that in your day?
In one of my lines in one of my songs on the Loud page, it says like, “and that explains why ya asthmatic ass can’t keep up.” The point being, if you run out of breath on stage, it’s fucking embarrassing. Keeping up and keeping healthy is necessary for me. Gotta get your weight down to get it up. You gotta get around and move across the stage. Standing still might work for niggas like Hov and 50, but they got they cash. My whole concentration, I love doin music, but shows are a lot better. I love getting out there and giving the people something. I want to give them top notch shit, to rock with ‘em. That’s what I do, I gotta move man. You can’t be slouchin around onstage, that shit is wack.
Loud.com: Word up. Gotta stay busy. I noticed you lace a lot of punchlines in your verses… do you battle?
I don’t like to battle cuz it goes back to the anger management thing. I tried once but it didn’t turn out too well for the other guy. When some cats go to battle, one of the cats in my crew, that’s all he sees, to kill the other dude. He’s real confrontational. I’m not like that because of those issues I had, like, I’m tryin to lay low in the cut, get in the cipher, spit something that’s gonna turn heads and break… but cats be like, my mom this, and I’m like what? I know too many martial arts for that. I have eight years of MMA training, about 3 years in combat swordplay, mixed with some Hawaiian kenpo, Italian longsword and dagger training, you know what I mean? There’s some other stuff you pick up here and there, but I can’t be in battles without wanting to literally hurt people.
Loud.com: Aha, classic. MMA is a great sport, as pure competition it doesn’t get much better. War St. Pierre. But yo, you mention your family… who supports you day in, day out, like, is family a real important force in your life?
Yeah, man, they keep my grounded. They keep me broken. Whereas before, they did the whole, ‘you better get a job, music won’t last,’ yada yada thing. They never heard my music up until that point. I had to actually win them over to my side. I did a couple tracks, one for Mother’s Day, one for Father’s Day, and they were like “Wow, you do this?” And I was like, “Yeah, I made the beat, I did all this, I do this.” They listened to the radio when they were younger but they don’t listen anymore. So when they heard my music, they were into it. And since then, they started backing me. My friends keep me grounded as well. Different forces keep me focused in different ways.
Loud.com: You’ve been making music for 15 years, but has there ever been a time when you considered giving up on rap? I feel like every emcee encounters that at some point…
Yeah, actually. About two years ago. It was the worst year of my life. I had lost my job, my apartment, my car and I was pretty much homeless. I didn’t know what to do and where to go. I had nothing, like, I was literally livin off the blood on my arm, donating back to get money to eat and get money for the bus. The only thing I could think of was rhymes. And just when I was getting ready to give it up, a show popped up.
I knew it was something that I couldn’t let go of, because after the job interviews, I’d hit the library to read or whatever, but in the end, I’d just be writing rhymes. I wanted to stop because I didn’t think I could get money from shows, but out of no where it seemed I started getting paid for it. It was a trying time, but music pulls through. Living couch to couch was no fun, and people will only put up with you for so long, you bounce around from person to person’s floor. So I was just blessed to find a way out of that situation.
Loud.com: Definitely. I get the impression you’re a student of hip hop… what’s your biggest complaint about it right now? And on the flipside, what are you most proud of?
I’m proud about how far we’ve come. You know, from the house parties to the main stage and worldwide exposure, I love that whole journey. It’s something we created from the struggle and hustle, and now it’s reached almost every corner of this planet. There’s hip hop in Africa, man! For it to essentially originate there and then have it come back with a new set of drums is crazy to me.
But to the first part of your question, what I don’t like is how we’ve lost our focus. It’s part of the success, I think. We’ve got too many artists that say what they say, like, ‘this is fucked up,’ but yet they don’t offer solutions. I see songs about the ghetto, but if you the richest motherfucker in the hood, why ain’t you fixin it? You in the hood, yeah? How come your hood is still ass out then, nigga? It’s this carbon copy bullshit every day and it’s fuckin annoying. There’s a grip of people out there workin a 9-5, and they don’t know what it’s like to drive a Phantom. What about us? What about the rest of us? What about the working class people? Rappers say all this stuff people want to hear, and yeah, everyone gotta hustle and grind, but damn if it’s not getting played. Tell your life story, but do something different, be bold. Please.
Loud.com: I agree. There aren’t many mainstream figures that are “civic-minded” enough about hip hop. What are your thoughts on the upcoming election?
I’m avid about politics, but at the same time, I don’t like it at all. I want someone to get in office that will do something. Like, you grew up in the hood, you hear about the hustle, when you get what you want, you get what you want.
I’ve seen a lot of things and I have no views on it that I want to share right now. It would upset a lot of people. So we’ll keep it at that. I will say one thing, though: I’m on that PE shit, and I ain’t heard one person talk about equality. There’s an equality problem in America, and it’s huge. But no one has fixed it or even really addressed it this campaign. So I’ll keep my opinions to myself.
Loud.com: Fair enough. But what about changing hip hop? Who or what do you think is the biggest obstacle for bringing kids out of the violent and crime-first mentalities that pervade the ghetto and the music. How does America fix that?
It starts with the kids seeing something different. If you sit there and expose a kid to one sort of thing, and that’s all they see, that’s all they’ll ever know. You remember that period in time where everything was “Boyz ‘N The Hood,” all that, they lived the life they know cuz that’s all they’re exposed to? You turn on BET, you get this hood rich mentality, and that’s all kids see and that’s all they know. It’s what they begin to take seriously.
You gotta expose them to new things. It’s not all like that. I want to see a rapper bold enough in normal gear to do what they do and smile for once. I’m sick of him smiling only when he got a chick and a big wad leanin on the Phantom. I maybe seen Common do that, like when you see him doin his video on the street, stopping his video to shake hands, it’s like, “Whoa, that’s something new.” When kids see that, then they start to get curious and ask questions. What we’re doing now is stagnating our youth. They don’t see anything else and that’s messed up. It’s up to us to advance them.
Loud.com: There’s a lot of truth to that statement. But even so, I have to ask what you plan to do with the $25,000?
Invest it in what got me there in the first place. Gotta reinvest in what made you the money. Gotta spend it to make it. I’ll wait til I get a little more to think I made it somewhere.
Loud.com: Will you do anything for the family?
I think the fact I got it from doing something I love was probably enough for them. It’s never come easy for us. But whatever we needed, we got. I want to hook up my moms with this, my boys up with that… so, yeah, I mean, of course do a little something. But for the most part, I’m going to reinvest it. It’s a solid amount, but you can’t really be moved by it. You gotta plan a purpose for it and make it do what it do. I’ll use it to make better music. Shit, I could spend it on a DJ Premier beat, use it for a feature, nigga, who knows!!
Loud.com: What can we expect to hear in 2008 from KillaKat? If you put out an album under SRC, what would it sound like?
See, that’s more like a win or lose question. I don’t usually think about where I could be, it’s more where I am. But IF I won… just expect hip hop to the fullest. I’m about that real, true hip hop. I feel the essence of hip hop is inside me, and if I can make you think and make it stick in your brain, I will. You’re gonna hear a lot more “Wake Up.” Dudes will be likin my shit. You can tell by my tracks, I’m gonna say things no one wants to say or attempt to say, and bring subject matter where no one else will bring it. It’s gonna be entertaining.
Now… if I don’t win… I’m still gonna do the same damn thing! I’ma come out with tracks and do shows, come out with tracks from my group. The rock band I’m in is called Super Mercado, and we just signed a deal to get our music out to TV, so we got some things poppin off.
On the hip hop tip, we been packin the house, got some good underground activity. Shout out to my group Nu Focus… the battle cat I told you about, Krayz Kasper, he’s the premier battle cat in Chicago. Our other guy is Night; he’s kind of the poet of the group. I go by KillaKat, but my original name was Kataklyxmic. Look for a Nu Focus album, soon, too. It should be done around April, but we’re gonna be thorough, lace it with some catchy hooks, nice beats, all that. It’s gonna be real official for everyone.
Loud.com: Aiight, we’ll have to look for it. I appreciate the time; I know cell minutes aren’t cheap. Anything else you’d like to add before I let you go, the floor is yours…
There’s something goin on in Chicago, there’s a resurgence of hip hop here. And our city is notorious for not supporting it’s own. So I think the most important thing I can say is, wherever this is being read, I’m a firm believer that if you like the music, you should support it. If you don’t, fine, don’t. But support the artists, the real artists out there, trying to do something. Push it as far as it can go. Run with it. And listen. Just listen.
